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NIP Rules - Notice of Intended Prosecution

Jun 13, 2012
Category: NIP Rules
Posted by: patterson
I was flashed going through a camera (about 40mph in a 30mph zone) at around 06:00 on a Sunday morning) in my fathers' car. I spent a nervous 2 weeks worrying about the NIP coming through to my father and was relieved when one didn't arrive. However, today, nearly a month since being flashed my father received a NIP reminder letter, but is positive he never received the original. Is there anything that I can do to contest either on the grounds of day/time or that the NIP wasn't served on time?
Mar 9, 2011
Category: NIP Rules
Posted by: patterson
I was driving a works car. The NIP was served on the registered keeper more than 14 days after the offence. Will the fact that they have subsequently served a notice on myself as the driver alter the 14 day rule. Is the rule that it must haveb een served on the registered keeper within 14 working days still?
Jan 20, 2011
Category: NIP Rules
Posted by: patterson
Long shot time!!
I have recently received a NIP from the Camera Processing Unit xl alleging that I exceeded the 70 mph speed limit
Wording;
On x/2010 at x >> x the driver of motor vehicle x did exceed 70 mph speed limit on dual carriageway (manual detection) contrary to S89(1) RTRA 84 Sch 2 RTOA 88. The recorded speed was 83mph.
The car is not an SL - it is an S Class - a completely different car - two more doors for a start (however in mitigation mine is a long wheelbase version - which could account for the 'L')
The car is not registered to me and the registered keeper has already sent back a similar form naming me as the 'assigned'.
The NIP is not signed by any person or body. It is from the Camera Processing Unit crest on it.
Within the text of the note are the words: 'This notice is issued for and on behalf of the Chief Constable of the x' - however no managers name or any other details - in other words this NIP is not signed and it is not from a Police Authority.
Questions:
Am I liable to prosecution under S 172 if I don't send it back as I am not the registered keeper and that person has already complied by sending my details?
If I ignore it - what might happen next? Will they go back to the registered keeper?
Is the wording of the NIP legal? It could have come from anyone.
Whilst x Police appear to offer 'safe speed' courses as an option to prosecution (and I am within ACPO guidelines at 83) the Safety camera Partnership element only offers these to people caught exceeding the 30 mph limit by up to 9 mph - which seems not only discriminatory (we are all equal under the law) but stupid as such offenders stand a much greater chance of killing or injuring someone than those of us on dual carriageways!
This is a pity as I was looking forward to attending one of these courses - can I negotiate with them??!
The points issue is not a big deal - my last were in 1993 - it's as always the principle - especially as the Conservatives said they'd raise the national limit to 80 if elected - I'd have been alright then !
Your advice and opinions welcomed.
Jan 18, 2011
Category: NIP Rules
Posted by: patterson
I responded to the NIP saying that the time was incorrect (they said 9.15am, but it was the morning after the clocks changed and I was already parked in a secure car park with witnesses by 8.30am) and questioned the callibration of the camera. I returned the NIP and forms unsigned, with the letter asking for clarification.
They responded with a very intimidating letter telling me that the clocks had changed the day before and that they wouldn't respond to any further correspondence from me or my representatives and any letters would be filed for court.
Based on their response, I am now unable to request further proof or get the NIP back in order to pay it (not that I am inclined to). Could you tell me if I have a case please?
Many thanks
Nov 18, 2010
Category: NIP Rules
Posted by: patterson
What do I do if I've received an NIP, two months and 17 days after the alleged offence took place. Than you
Oct 19, 2010
Category: NIP Rules
Posted by: patterson
Alleged Offence: speeding
Your road traffic offence question: I have just received two NIP's both dated x/10/10 for offences on x july and x Aug. This seems a long delay! In the earlier one, I genuinely can't say whether my wife or I was driving, so how can I honestly answer part 1 or part 2 of the NIP.regards.
Oct 12, 2010
Category: NIP Rules
Posted by: patterson
Alleged Offence: S81(1)rtra 84 sch 2 rtoa 88
Your road traffic offence question: I have recieved notice that I was doing 40 in a 30 zone. It's a road I do use and am aware of occasional parked cameras so it is possibly correct. However the issue date of this notice is x/2010 and the offence is dated as x /2010 (3 months later). I have not moved recently and the car has been mine for 4 yrs(though on checking it is still registered at my old address) Should I just accept it and get the registration of the car sorted. Ihave one sp50 on my licence from x for another car i own which is registered at my current address.Does the 3 month delay nullify the nip and if not can I do a driving course.
Oct 8, 2010
Category: NIP Rules
Posted by: patterson
Alleged Offence: Exceeding 50mph speed limit
Your road traffic offence question: Recorded speed of xmph at x hours on 22/9/2010. The notice of intended prosecution was sent to me on 7/10/2010 - is this classed as outside of the 14 days notice period and if so is there anything i can do?
Oct 4, 2010
Category: NIP Rules
Posted by: patterson
Alleged Offence: Speeding 49 in a 30mph
Your road traffic offence question: Hi,
I have a court summons in 4 weeks time for speeding on a motorbike doing 49 in a 30 zone. It was a fixed camera.
They have sent through all the evidence (photographs etc) with the court summons info. But, they have attached the wrong NIP. The NIP they have attached does not belong to me, Which also begs the question, Where has my NIP with my personal information gone to?
Speaking to a police man friend this may be a lifeline so to speak as they have failed to provide the correct evidence?
Could you advise on this and how best to proceed.
Oct 4, 2010
Category: NIP Rules
Posted by: patterson
Road Traffic Offence question: Hi Emma,
We have just received a notice of intended prosecution for my son (x) for the above offence. We opened his mail as he has moved to x. There is no Phone No to ring to get advice on what to do. It states it intends to take proceedings against him but does not offer a fine to pay.
We cannot fill the form in on his behalf and cannot get any advice, can you please help with some advice on this
Sep 24, 2010
Category: NIP Rules
Posted by: patterson
Alleged Offence: Speeding,
Your road traffic offence question: I have just received a notice from the police to say I was caught doing 39mph in a 30 zone. I am very suprised by this, when I look at the area it is usually a very slow moving strip of road and I am unsure whether I was doing this. Can you tell me if I can contact them to get the evidence of this so i can pin point the exact location.
Aug 26, 2010
Category: NIP Rules
Posted by: patterson
Alleged Offence: Speeding NIP - 14 Day Rule
Your road traffic offence question: I have been sent a NIP. Date of Offence x. Issue Date of x this is clearly out of the 14 day rule. I am the owner and registered keeper and have been for almost 18 months with no registration plate changes etc... I contacted the Ticket office concerned and was advised the force had to contact the DVLA to acertain the owner information (why they had to do this I dont know I thought they had access to this information via PNC and secondly why did it take so long)and as a result the ticket is exempt from this condition. Where do I stand legally
Jul 16, 2010
Category: NIP Rules
Posted by: patterson
My boyfriend went through a speed trap. He received a letter within 2 weeks informing him of the offence and asking if he was the driver. This letter was not sent recorded/registered delivery therefore there is no proof that it was delivered. He would like to know what his options are.
Thank you
Jul 5, 2010
Category: NIP Rules
Posted by: patterson
I received a Notice of Intended Prosecution onx. Then, on x, I received an apology saying that there had been a 'clerical error' and no further action would be taken.
Onx I received a Final Reminder. I telephoned and was told that two Notices of I P had been issued and the apology referred to the second Notice which I definitely never received. I wrote to x Police explaining this and they replied that they were continuing with the prosecution.
Must I accept this?
Jun 29, 2010
Category: NIP Rules
Posted by: patterson
I was driving 37mph in a 30mph zone. I have admitted the offence but was hoping to be offered a speed awareness course rather than points as I rely on my driving for my current and future profession and take pride in my clean license. The police took more than 14 days to send the first notice of the offence to the registered keeper of the vehicle. I was unfamiliar with the vehicle and the speed limit in the area as it was my first day in a new job. Do I have any hope of getting the matter thrown out because it took them more than 14 days to notify or is there any chance I can appeal for leniency in court and avoid the points? I have never come even close to being convicted of any offence (driving or other before) and so am very keen to keep my unblemished record.
Jun 23, 2010
Category: NIP Rules
Posted by: patterson
I got caught by a speed camera but the letter asking for the identity of the driver has my surname spelt incorrectly can I still be prosecuted
Jun 16, 2010
Category: NIP Rules
Posted by: patterson
Good Morning,
I have came home from offshore to find a reminder letter of NIP from Lothian & Borders Police Safety Camera Unit. The alleged Offence is for the x 2010. I have telephoned them to explain that I have just come home from a long trip away and this would explain no reply. I have not received an orginal NIP just a reminder and I informed them of this on the telephone, but the officer clearly stated that this was posted on the x, but not by recorded delivery. How can they guarantee we are to receive this if it is not signed for on arrival on location. I have read in the Road traffic offenders act that we must receive the NI within 14 days, In this case I have not only the reminder which is dated the x. I have written a letter to them asking for them to send the photograpic evidence they have to myslef so I can establish who is driving and if even this is my vehicle.
Can you give any more information and do you think I have a chance of getting out of this Speeding offence?
Best Regards
Jun 2, 2010
Category: NIP Rules
Posted by: patterson
I'm a company car driver, my company lease the vechical and received an NIP stating on 6th May 2010 I exceeded 50 MPH. my recorded speed was 63MPH. My head office received the NIP on 26th May 2010 and then forwarded on to me which I receivied on 28th May 2010. I understand there is a 14 day rule. does this 14 day rule apply to me? as the Notice Issue Date on the NIP is 25/05/2010 and my Head Office only received this NIP on 26th May 2010. If it does not apply to me what do I need to do?
May 27, 2010
Category: NIP Rules
Posted by: patterson

I have received a NIP then when I opened it, realised that I was not the intended recipient. It was addressed to Mr Edwerd, at my address. There is no Mr Edwerd living at our address.
I have returned it to x Police advising them of this. My name is Mr Edward.....

Names changed for confidentiality reasons..

May 25, 2010
Category: NIP Rules
Posted by: patterson
i was speeding and got caught on a mobile camera and have received a NIP. The offence happened on 28/04/10 and the isuue date of the NIP is 20/05/10 which is outside the 14 day issue period. I purchased the car on 14/04/10 but the V5 was dated 18/05/10. Is the issue of the NIP within the Road Traffic Act 1988 time limits?
May 19, 2010
Category: NIP Rules
Posted by: patterson
the alledged offence took place on 07.04.10
i was not notified untill 11.05.10, i seem to rember hearing somwere that you must be notified within 14 days if so what do i do next.
May 19, 2010
Category: NIP Rules
Posted by: patterson
I've been served with 2 fixed penalty notices. The date on the letter is 14th of may, but the offences were dated 21st and 22nd April. I recieved the letter on 18th may. As the date of the offence was more than 14 days prior to the date the letter was issued, can I reject it?
May 4, 2010
Category: NIP Rules
Posted by: patterson
Is there a legal obligation for the NIP to be served within 14 days
> of the alleged offence. Failure to observe this obligation renders the
> Notice null and void?
>
Apr 20, 2010
Category: NIP Rules
Posted by: patterson
I have received a notice of intended prosecution from Humberside Police. This was detected via a mobile speed camera, however Humberside police have sent a separate letter to me also stating that the time on the notice of intended prosceution was incorrect in that the clocks were set to GMT but not BMT. Therefore the Notice of intended Prosecution does not reflect the time the incident took place. Can you please advise me where I stand - do I complete and return the form ? does this mean that their evidence is incorrect? Your advice would be much appreciated
Apr 19, 2010
Category: NIP Rules
Posted by: patterson
I have received today 17/4/10 a letter of notification for speeding which states it took place on 20/2/10. (38mph in 30mph zone)Surely I should have received this within 2 weeks of the offence taking place. I have heard that if you are not informed in writing within 2/4 weeks then it is null and void. Is this correct?
Apr 19, 2010
Category: NIP Rules
Posted by: patterson
is there a time limit between the date of offence to the date of nip?
Apr 7, 2010
Category: NIP Rules
Posted by: patterson

I have had a letter dating 26th March for intended prosecution for 36 in a 30. The date of the offence is the 19th Feb. I have been told that they have to let you know within 14 days about the notice of prosecution.... is this correct? If so, where do I stand?

Thanks

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